PC Upgrade -> Budget 15K

nac

Aspiring Novelist
If you can wait, wait.
Checked spec sheet, 450 chipset supports HDMI 2.0 which is nice and it's likely that the new chipset performs slightly better than 350. Obviously 450 will cost more than 350 at launch.
Weigh your priorities and decide.
 
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Munez

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I Am also planing to buy 120 SSD drive now. Kindly suggest.

I am planing to extend my Budget to 30K and buy PC in mid of august. Keep in mind that I don't play games, I use my PC only for Movies, Browsing, Basic photoshoping and to run single virtual machine for C/C++ coding/building.
 

Minion

Conversation Architect
I Am also planing to buy 120 SSD drive now. Kindly suggest.

I am planing to extend my Budget to 30K and buy PC in mid of august. Keep in mind that I don't play games, I use my PC only for Movies, Browsing, Basic photoshoping and to run single virtual machine for C/C++ coding/building.
KINGSTON A400 120GB-2300
 
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Munez

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Ok I will buy KINGSTON A400 120GB

Regarding Motherboard, Just because I have 30K budget I dont to buy a expensive MOBO.

In past 8 years I have used only two DIMM slots. Never used remaining 2.My plan is to use 8GB DDR4 3000 MHZ now, After 2-3 years if i plan to add more RAM i will be adding 16GB (or 8GB) in another slot. If it survives for more than 5 years, then i will replace one of the 8Gb with 16GB.
Regarding SATA Ports. I will never Use more than 4 Ports. My two of the HDD already has some issue. I might Buy another 2TB and replace them. It is always better have less dives to save power and temperature.

This PC i just use for Internet browsing , Media playback and VM. I already have a Corporate laptop which has Intel i7 4600U with 16GB RAM and 240Gb SSD

There is no better MOBO with 2 DIMM slots, 4 SATA ports, USB3.0 ports which supports AMD Ryzen ?

Thanks & Regards
Munez
 

Minion

Conversation Architect
AMD RYZEN™ 5 2400G WITH RADEON™ RX VEGA 11 GRAPHICS-11,000
Asus Prime B350M-A-7,400
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 8GB (1X8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHZ C16-6,700
Kingston A400 120GB-2,200

 

whitestar_999

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Ok I will buy KINGSTON A400 120GB

Regarding Motherboard, Just because I have 30K budget I dont to buy a expensive MOBO.

In past 8 years I have used only two DIMM slots. Never used remaining 2.My plan is to use 8GB DDR4 3000 MHZ now, After 2-3 years if i plan to add more RAM i will be adding 16GB (or 8GB) in another slot. If it survives for more than 5 years, then i will replace one of the 8Gb with 16GB.
Regarding SATA Ports. I will never Use more than 4 Ports. My two of the HDD already has some issue. I might Buy another 2TB and replace them. It is always better have less dives to save power and temperature.

This PC i just use for Internet browsing , Media playback and VM. I already have a Corporate laptop which has Intel i7 4600U with 16GB RAM and 240Gb SSD

There is no better MOBO with 2 DIMM slots, 4 SATA ports, USB3.0 ports which supports AMD Ryzen ?

Thanks & Regards
Munez
GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H Motherboard (AMD Socket AM4/Ryzen Series CPU/Max 32GB DDR4-3200MHz Memory)
However I still recommend getting Asus prime B350M-A suggested above as it has better overall quality & more features in same microATX size.Only if you absolutely can't afford extra 3k then get gigabyte a320m.
 

Nerevarine

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AB350Pro4 is a better buy than the B350M, actually its quite overpriced for a M series board, (probably because it has 4 ram headers).
Back when I purchased my board, Asus B350 Prime Plus full ATX size was available for around 8k,
if you are willing to spend 7.3k, you can get full size board. But it will come with following compromises :
Benefits of B350M over AB350Pro4
1) You will get 4 phase VRM vs parallel 3 phase VRM in AB350P4. For general usage, this absolutely doesnt matter, you will need 4 Phase only for good overclocks. I am running 3.7 ghz stable with Asrock just fine.
2) USB 3.1 gen 2 (10gbps) hence future proof, AB350Pro4 doesnt have gen 2. <--- This is the only feature that sets it apart and a pretty important one imo.
3) secondary M.2. slot can run PCIE X2 NVME SSDs. AB350Pro4's secondary M.2. can accomodate sata only. Depends on use case but it is highly unlikely you will ever use that secondary slot, let alone the first one.
4) ASUS sweet UEFI boot screen.

Benefits of AB350Pro4
1) Full size, meaning more sata slots, more fan headers, more PCIE , more USB, more everything etc etc
2) sweet white color scheme :p

Thats about it, weigh your requirements carefully before buying. You want more slots, get AB350Pro4, u want 3.1 gen 2, go for asus.

Note : Warranty for both are handled by same carrier.
 

whitestar_999

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^^Usb 3.1 gen2(aka 10gbps) is just a gimmick for now for most users.I doubt people will start using 5gbps usb NVMe/ssd drives like they do flash drives today in next few years(even ssd is considered a novelty in India for most pc).

Using 2 m2 drives one over the other is a bad idea(many people are already seeing 90C+ temps on their NVMe drives under load when slot is below gpu). One can practically consider it as a single m2 slot.

Who said asus & asrock have same service centre provider,they are different(for asus it is regenersis/rashi & for asrock it is smartlink).
 
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Munez

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Looks like there are different opinions for MOBO. I will go with voting :). Anyway I have 10 more days to buy.
BTW, I am buying Kingston A400 120GB today . Just wanted to know if my existing MOBO supports it. ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO
 

whitestar_999

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Staff member
Any ssd will work with any mobo having sata II ports(3gbps) though performance may be a bit limited as ssd can even fully utilize sata III 6gbps port but even then it will still be much faster than any hdd.
 

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
Looks like there are different opinions for MOBO. I will go with voting :). Anyway I have 10 more days to buy.
BTW, I am buying Kingston A400 120GB today . Just wanted to know if my existing MOBO supports it. ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO

get atleast 240gb ssd . 120gb is too low.it gets filled up faster and that will affect the life of an ssd.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
As long as ~10% of available space on ssd is free,it is no issue.If you don't install games & use reasonable no. of software then 90gb is more than enough for a regularly maintained win 10 install(aka clean restore points & run disk cleanup regularly).For 250gb ssd I suggest only samsung 860 evo but that costs ~5.7k,way over op's budget & getting a cheap 240gb ssd for ~3.9k(kingston) is not good in long run especially considering samsung evo proven track record & reliability.
 
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Munez

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I already bought it for 2100/- including GST :)
I wont be installing any games or loads of software. My Windows partition will be always < 100Gb so i think im good :).

Also can someone suggest good wireless KB/Mouse combo under 1.5k ?
 

Minion

Conversation Architect
I already bought it for 2100/- including GST :)
I wont be installing any games or loads of software. My Windows partition will be always < 100Gb so i think im good :).

Also can someone suggest good wireless KB/Mouse combo under 1.5k ?

Yep,even cheap SSD are much better than mechanical HDD
Keyboard Mouse
*www.amazon.in/dp/B01LOORNLY/ref=psdc_1375418031_t1_B012MQS060
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
I already bought it for 2100/- including GST :)
I wont be installing any games or loads of software. My Windows partition will be always < 100Gb so i think im good :).

Also can someone suggest good wireless KB/Mouse combo under 1.5k ?
Try to keep storage <60 %
 

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
As long as ~10% of available space on ssd is free,it is no issue.If you don't install games & use reasonable no. of software then 90gb is more than enough for a regularly maintained win 10 install(aka clean restore points & run disk cleanup regularly).For 250gb ssd I suggest only samsung 860 evo but that costs ~5.7k,way over op's budget & getting a cheap 240gb ssd for ~3.9k(kingston) is not good in long run especially considering samsung evo proven track record & reliability.

this video explains something
! 90% should be the maximum usage limit but is not ideal or optimal.
 
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Munez

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Does that mean, at some point of time, our SSD will stop working all of sudden and we will loose all our data ? Typically what is the life time of SSD before we have to transfer and switch to new SSD.
 

whitestar_999

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this video explains something
! 90% should be the maximum usage limit but is not ideal or optimal.
For cheap ssd it is usually true that their performance starts degrading severely at around 60-70% but even then it will be better than hdd & some cheap ssd handles this better(I think kingston 120gb a400 is better than wd green 120gb & adata lower series 120gb in this respect).

Does that mean, at some point of time, our SSD will stop working all of sudden and we will loose all our data ? Typically what is the life time of SSD before we have to transfer and switch to new SSD.
Lifetime of ssd depends upon how much you write to it but ssd can fail anytime just like hdd though overall chances are less because of lack of moving parts.If you use ssd as OS drive in an usual manner then there should not be any issue for running it 3-4 years(assuming it doesn't fail because of other random reasons).A400 120gb has 40TB endurance rating meaning you can write 40TB to it without any issue(again assuming it doesn't fail because of other random reasons)
 
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