HP Pavilion G6 2005AX Review and Benchmarks

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    HP Pavilion G6 2005 AX Review

    Story so far:

    My hunt for a laptop started many months ago (feb-2012).

    Initially I was looking for one within a Budget of Rs.24,000 +/- 2k . You can find my initial query here

    I was not in an immediate rush to by as my 6yr old desktop was still going strong! So few months passed - and need for a laptop grew stronger. Finally decided to purchase in May and asked TDF gurus advice for final decision, budget being around 30k. Contenders were the Asus X Series X53TA-SX096D and HP Pavilion G6 Series G6-1313AX (you can view that post here

    But many members adviced me to wait for Trinity and Ivy bridge, so put the brakes on purchase and waited! But grew ever more impatient as time passed - and to add fuel to the fire; diablo 3 was launched and going by the history of llano launch in India, Trinity was expected in late 2012- sold my tablet and upped my budget to near 40k decided to go either for the K53 or the X53TA immediately - saw an youtube vid of X53TA playing D3 smoothly and that sealed it for me - K53 maybe having stronger performance but its almost 12k more than x53, so it's a big saving for me!

    But X53's were out of stock nearly everywhere ; to my bad(?) luck, found one apparently in stock in snapdeal. You can read about the order and the outcome

    Feeling disappointed, decided to go for the K53; went to the shop to buy the K53, but the sales guy threw a spanner in the works by showing me the Samsung NP305E5A-S01 IN (glad he did!). Couldn't decide between the K53 and the Samsung in the shop itself; so went home to take a final decision - logged into net to research data b/w the 2 and saw the Pavilion 2005ax in the new arrivals page - the rest as they say, is history!!

    Order and Arrival:
    Place the order on Flipkart on thursday, 7th june and opted for COD. But on 9th saturday; they called me told me that COD is only available for value upto Rs.25,000 - Immediately cancelled by order and put a new order and paid using bank transfer - so corrected order placed on 9th evening. Laptop reached on 13th noon - very speedy shipping! Flipkart service was excellent as usual - but they could have informed of cod limitation earlier ~ anyways;

    Tech Specs

    [TABLE]Processor | AMD A8 4500 M "Trinity" APU with AMD Radeon 7640G
    Display | 15.6" HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366 x 768)
    Memory | 1 x 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3; 1 slot free
    Graphics | AMD Radeon HD 7640G (in APU) + 7670M Dual GPU (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)
    Sound | Altec Lansing - Dolby Advanced Audio
    Hard Disk | 500 GB SATA (5400 rpm)
    Wireless | 802.11b/g/n ; Bluetooth 4.0
    Connectivity | 2 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 ; 1 USB 2.0 ; 1 HDMI ; 1 VGA ; 1 RJ45 ;1 Headphone-out (Stereo) ; 1 Microphone-in; sd/mmc card reader
    Battery | 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)
    DVD | SuperMulti DVD burner
    OS | Windows 7 Home Basic 64-bit[/TABLE]
    Full Specs

    CPUZ

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    Design and Build

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    The 2005ax follows a new design theme than the previous pavilion models - the laptop comes in a single colour finish - the paint is metallic dark grey - which results in a sober look. If you are looking for making a style statement, better look elsewhere - that said, the design is clean and neat-

    The chrome HP logo offset to the lower left is a neat touch and adds charcter to the lid. The Edges of the lid taper downwards.

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    Inside, theres a webcam on the top bezel ; The speakers are placed above the keyboard and a chrome strip runs along the length of the laptop, seperating the 2 - it's a nice touch- The power button is on the top left ; and on the top right you can find the Dolby Advanced Audio and Altec Lansing logo

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    On the bottom left, you find an HP total care sticker containing helpline numbers and support e-mail IDs - this white sticker does not gel with the dark grey theme of the laptop. On the bottom right, there are the stickers for AMD Vision, Radeon Dual Graphics, Windows 7 and HP premier experience. The AMD Vision and Radeon Stickers look great.

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    The laptop is much more compact than I expected (dimensions lxbxh - 37.6 x 24.4 x 3.63 cm) of a full size 15 incher. Weight 2.47 kg (from HP site; i'll weight it with and without the battery when I get time).

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    The heat vent is on the left side and not in the bottom, so using this palced on your lap won't be a probelm

    A design drawback I noted was that the status lights for Power charging and hard drive access is located along the right surface of the laptop, not exactly a biggie, but still..

    The keyboard is an "island style/chiclet style" with dedicated number pad. Typing on the keyboard is good with a positive feedback from clicking the keys; the spacing between the keys is very good. But the keys are sized a smidgen too small I think; bit larger keys would have been easier to hit - But the compact keyboard ensures the more compact dimensions of the laptop. Interesting to note that the keyboard is set on a piano black surface; which distinguishes it from the rest of the laptop's metallic paint, it gels well into the dark theme

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    The touchpad is offset to the left and the surface is grooved (as opossed to a smooth surface)- so you can feel the pattern when sliding your fingers across - in the end it feels the same in operation as a smooth surface. The response of the touchpad is good. It has many features like pinch to zoom, 2 finger scroll etc which are nicely illustrated by videos in the Synaptics contol center.

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    There is a groove on the top right on the touchpad to disable the touchpad - also a small light adjacent to the left of the touchpad comes on if you hace disabled the touchpad. Pressing on the groove again enables it back and the light goes off.

    The L/R mouse buttons are firm in placement and they don't 'wobble' when you touch them - the clicks are positive and overall it's good to use.

    The laptop is well bulit and I couldn't find any loose panels/ill fitting bits.

    This laptop does not have a latch on the monitor (like this: )

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    The lid has 2 rubber strips on either side on which it rests, when closing the lid - I prefer a latch mechanism, where we feel the lid has securely closed, but in this case it feels firmly shut as well.


    Connectivity and Storage
    It comes with the standard wireless connectivity of these days - 802.11b/g/n ; Bluetooth 4.0
    For the wired connectivity options; on the Right side we have

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    A lone usb port, charging port and a tray loading DVD drive

    On the left side we have

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    A VGA port, an HDMI port, an RJ45 ethernet port, two USB 3.0 ports, a 3.5mm stereo jack, a 3.5mm line in and a Card Reader.

    There are no ports / status lights on either the front / back edges

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    Rear

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    For storage, a Samsung Spinpoint (modelno. HN-M500MBB) 500gb 5400rpm does duty under the hood (thanks to rish's method to confirm) ; flipkart still lists it at 7200 rpm

    Display and Sound

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    The display is a 15" LED backlit LCD with a native de riguer resolution of 1366x768
    When first using the laptop, I felt that the colors were too withish and there was a tinge of blue to the whole picture. I fiddled around in the AMD vision control center settings and found out that the color temperature was the culprit. Set the temp to 5700k and got the result I was looking for.

    The picture quality is very good and the display is very bright at max brightness. Viewing angles are very good as well - But the display I saw on the samsung laptops are much better with more vivid colours and matte finish.

    The sound from the Altec Lansing speakers is very clear, especially at loud volumes, dialouges are clear and there is no distortion. But what I would have like to see was more bass for listening to music - my bro's old toshiba satellite has much better bass than this (and it has no special branding on it's speakers) and listening to music is a better experience on his laptop - let me see if I can play around with any settings etc to get more bass - but for watching movies this is very good - as the dialouges are very clear

    Performance

    The one section you guys have been waiting for!

    WEI

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    Funny thing is that I get the same score when Running with dual graphics and without dual graphics

    a.Graphical

    I'll list out the Benchmarks done

    1. Unigine Tropics

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    Eveything High/Occlusion Off/Anistropy 2x:
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    Eveything High/Occlusion On/Anistropy 4x:
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    Note: Ambient Occlusion tanked the FPS in both the Tropics and Heaven Benchmarks

    2. Unigine Heaven

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    3. 3D Mark 11

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    4. World in Conflict DX 10 Mode

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    5. Resident Evil 5 DX 10 Mode

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    6. Crysis x64
    Used these setting to get best frame rate of 30-45 fps

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    7. Battlefield Bad Company 2

    Again, used these setting to get best fps/quality - fps was 30ish while occasionaly dipping to ~25 during intense fights

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    b.Synthetic

    1.Passmark x64

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    2.Sissoft Sandra

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    3. USB 3 Copying

    Time to copy 700 mb file from external HDD to desktop - 4-5 seconds (it was very hard to take this screenshot as the dialog box would disappear when I took the screenshot!

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    Time taken in USB 2 for same file - 14-15 seconds

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    c. Real world
    Multitasking is excellent on this laptop - I had multiple tabs open in Chrome, One HD Movie in VLC, Music open in WMP, Some Word documents open and still I could zip through all of them with no lag.

    Battery Life

    Did a test with Battery at 100%, Dual graphics disabled (APU only), brightness set to 50% sound 50% and CPU clock set to 1400mhz from AMD control center (lowest possible) and watched an HD video of around 1 hour 38 mins and there was still 56% battery remaining - couldnt run it down to 0 that day. Did the test again and I could watch 2 movies of roughly the same length (1 hr 40 mins) and charge was at ~8% so that equates to around 3 hours 30 minutes when we hypermile with this laptop

    Update: Did a test with Battery Eater (thanks to Sam for the Link)

    Set the power mode to high performance [max brightness, no autodimming display, no auto sleep], charged battery to 100%, started the test in classic mode (this mode determines the absolute minimum time you can get from your laptop battery). Here are the results

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    Note that at when laptop went below 10% battery, it hibernated, so the test did not completely drain the battery, it ended with battery having at around ~8% charge (thats why graph did not touch 0 )

    So that equates to around 1 hour: 30 minutes when you do intensive work on this laptop.

    Temperature and Cooling

    This area has been much discussed upon. When using the laptop for prolonged periods, doing normal tasks such as Web browsing, watching movies etc, it remains very cool, with just the heat fan area getting slightly warm;
    But when you push the laptop to the extreme for prolonged periods (benchmarking, high load games), the heat churned out by the fan is "Kebab maker" hot - but interesting thing is that While the fan blows out hot air, the rest of the chassis is cool to the touch, only the upper left corner vent gets warm. How effectively can a cooling pad keep the temps down for prolonged periods? When I exit the games, the temps quickly come back to normal in 10-15 seconds.

    Here are some temps

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    After running a Tropics bench

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    After multiple tropics benchmarks

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    Conclusion
    Having spent around 4 days testing this laptop, I'm convinced that I made a good decision to buy this laptop - for 32k, you get a laptop which can run all the games at High-Mid settings and is very good at everyday tasks too. The only problem is the heat output when using high performance applications for prolonged periods and the so-so music listening experience from the speakers
    Thanks to all the TDF members for their valuable advice!! Hope you enjoyed this review!

    Being a first review for me, please tell me anything to add to it!
     
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  2. akbsol

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    Re: HP Pavilion G6 Review and Benchmarks

    Great work.. After reading your review with so many benchmarks n stats it feels like I bought the right product. LOL

    Thanks for putting your time on this.
     
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    Re: HP Pavilion G6 Review and Benchmarks

    excellent review Games Goblin :grin: you did so many test. nice :)
    can you test the battery again using Battery Eater? So that the values can directly be compared with values from other reviews.

    overall nice review and you used hell lot of pics ;)
     
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    Re: HP Pavilion G6 Review and Benchmarks

    You are welcome akbsol! Appreciate the comments!

    Thank You sam! Couldn't resist with the pics especially the Heaven benchmark! Looks too good :)

    Say that is a nifty app - Battery Eater - will be sure to try it out tomorrow and post the results here.

    I removed Norton Internet Security that came with the Laptop and installed Microsoft Security Essentials. Norton was too annoying with many pop ups.

    Another small fact about this laptop is that it has no lights for Num lock. Slightly annoying when you type on the numpad and no numbers appear!

    A nifty feature is with the Wifi Button (which is on F12 key) - it glows orange when its off and white when on - the status light is on the button itself and not on a seperate status light row, come to think of it this laptop does not have a row for status lights like some other laptops (I remember the K53 had a row near the touchpad)

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    When turned on
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    To-Do List

    * Get latest games like BF3 and Crysis 2 and benchmark them
    * Call HP regarding extended warranty
    * Revisit 3d Mark after AMD releases new drivers - my processor and Graphics card was marked as unrecognized by 3dmark
    * I'm missing win 7 ultimate as I was using it for past years on my desktop
    * I'll be looking at a clean install of ultimate some months down the line, when I'm bored of home basic (miss the transparency effects). But I'm wondering how to install some of the useful hp apps (auto system updater etc) after a clean install
    * Put another 4gb RAM alongside the stock one and test the performance
    * and of course the battery eater test requested by Sam

    EDIT: oops Forgot to mention the laptop model no. in the thread title; Can mods edit it to "HP Pavilion G6 2005AX Review and Benchmarks". Thanks a ton!
     
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    nice review, keep it up :)
     
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    What I most dislike on hp lappies are the horrible arrow keys.
    BTW,Phodu review.Keep it up.
     
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    Palang tod review.....

    You almost finalised the piece ill buy.
     
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    Wow.....thanks for this indepth review.
    BTW, could you just confirm if "PSCHECK" actually works on A8-4500M. As of now, its the only known tool capable of assisting in overclocking Piledriver based processors.:razz:

    AMD PSCHECK 3.4.1
    I already know for sure that A10-4600M can be overclocked.
    Base clock 2.3ghz to constant 2.73ghz
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    And if possible, benchmark the system, after overclocking.
     
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    can't be. read the thread again. changing stats doesn't have any effect.
     
  10. rish1

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    awesome review bro looks like a professional review..
    Great
    I also booked mine today will get it tomorrow !!

    www.thinkdigit.com/forum/reviews/15...d-a8-4500m-trinity-processor.html#post1679069


    and i think you are looking for this

    www.hp.com/in/peaceofmind

    be quick and register bro . Registration within 7 days of purchase is necessary bro..

    for our lappy it is 1 year.. But just google it and see the no. Of complaints on consumerforum.. I was stunned..

    ohh what a coincidence . I am also replacing my 6 year old desktop
    p4 2.6 ghz endend all the major game titles launched before 2006 ( 52 games ) on this machine.
     
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    Heating for normal use browsing and videos should be ok ...right ?
     
  12. akbsol

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    Yep. Its normal and unnoticeable under moderate usage. Only gaming and other heavy stuff makes it blow out hottt air. While gaming you need to keep the vent area clear allowing proper airflow for laptop to cool itself.
     
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    Overclocking didnt have much effect on 7730M, which frankly i dont care about, coz GPU system on G6-2005 is fairly powerful and i'll be using CC to control it....although its interesting to note that 7730M is a GCN offering.
    Overclocking a processor from 2.3 to 2.7 GHZ is going to have obvious performance impact...especially in case of A8-4500M. I somehow feel its underclocked.

    EDIT: Well, apparently, that guy has updated his thread with sock setting 3D mark05 scores, and Forced_turbo/OverclockedGPU 3Dmark05 scores..... kinda proud that A10 reached 10k milestone. :D
     
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    Guys

    I have doubts regarding the extended warranty purchase.

    I set the delivery address in flipkart under my bro's name (as I would not be home for most of the weekdays and when courier guy came, he could deliver it to my bro who would be home). So invoice is generated in my brother's name.

    As per the link provided by rish @ www.hp.com/in/peaceofmind, the terms and conditions state that following items must be couriered to them - "copy of the Purchase invoice, a cut out of the bar code sticker from the Notebook/Desktop box, and a copy of ID proof ( driving license, PAN card, Election Card, Passport) along with the cheque of complete amount"

    Also, the terms state that

    "Please note that the claim will be processed ONLY if the Name on the invoice, identity proof and the name registered on the registration site is same. We request your attention to this point and submission of appropriate details to ensure timely claim approval."

    the problem is that I already registered the laptop in my name in the HP website (it asked for registration when first booted up). And invoice is in my bro's name - so what to do? Also, contacted flipkart and they said that they cannot make another invoice in my name.

    Also, the terms state that "The customer has to register within 7 days of purchase and all documents have to reach Solutions within 10 days of registration."

    I got the laptop on 13th june (last wed) but the invoice date is 11-Jun (so by looking at the invoice date the last date for registration is today)

    Also, they have mentioned to give them a cut out of the s/n from the box. When I registered in HP site, the serial no. I gave them was from the sticker under my laptop (14 digit numeric code which is printed below the win 7 cd key, and the HP website accepted it and I got a confirmation e-mail). But upon examining the Box, I could not find such a s/n anywhere on it. The serial no. printed on the box is a 10 digit alphanumeric one (in a black sticker which contains both serial no. and product no.)

    @rish and akbsol - can you guys confirm if it's the same in your laptops and boxes? Thanks!
     
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    @Games Goblin : It would be great if you can post the the results of crysis internal benchmarks.You will find a file named 'Benchmark_GPU.bat' in the 'bin32' or 'bin64' folder in the crysis installation directory.If that file isn't present ,create a .bat file at the same location with the following lines in them.
    Code:
    @echo Running GPU benchmark 1
    @echo Results will depend on current system settings
    @pause
    @echo Running...
    @crysis.exe -DEVMODE +map island +exec benchmark_gpu
    @type "..\Game\Levels\island\benchmark_gpu.log"
    @pause
    
     
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    yeah bro the serial no is that 10 digit no..
    The serial no printed on my invoice is that only i think ,
    what no is printed in your invoice ?

    also the no. Printed under win 7 sticker might be the serial no of windows 7 and not the laptop . Though i am not sure on this, but by the looks of it, this seems to be the case.
    Immediately call the extended warranty care no from the sticker on laptop ( total care )
    and tell your case
    i think you have not registered for the extended warranty . Best thing you could do is
    send copy of invoice with identity proof of your brother, register your brother name in extended warranty offer.

    btw which backpack you got aakash and gg
     
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    and bro it says name on the registration site . That means registration site and not that registration that came up on boot. I opened my box in showroom and the guy did everything in front of me there was no internet so i guess he skipped that part. He just entered my name in that windows profile . Till now havent connectd to internet yet . Will do all these stuff tomorrow..
     
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    Hi Neuron, will run this and post back

    Hi rish, in invoice the 10 digit alphanumeric no. is printed. Will post a pic of the backpack

    @akbsol and rish

    Thank you very much guys for your timely replies!! I went to HP site again and registered the laptop in my brothers name with the 10 digit no. I also submitted the form given in the peace of mind offer link - but then an e-mail came from them -

    What is this code? I got a registration code in my e-mail after filling up the form in the peace of mind website - is this the code to be provided??
     
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    it says below . Did you get the no below that line . Registration no and redemption no could be diff .. By the way i wanted to ask something you had to tune your temp to 5700k . My came with 6200k . Max limit is 10k .
    So will 10k give me the best picture quality . Any cons on using it at 10k

    and if i only want to use dgpu how to do that .could not find switchable graphics option.

    ahh there is one more serial no slip with bar code stuck on the plastic cover
    it is 11 digits
    the first 10 digits are serial no and the 11 digit is letter " C "

    now i am wondering should i send that sticker or the box one..
     

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