Gaming Rig for 60K

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  1. deepakkumarb22

    deepakkumarb22 New Member

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    1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
    A: Gaming, gaming, lots of gaming,HD Multimedia

    2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
    A:Yes

    3. What is your MAX budget?
    A:60000 (EDIT - 75K to 80K)

    4. Planning to overclock?
    A:No

    5. Which OS are you planning to use?
    A:Windows 7 x86 or x64 (depends on final config)

    6. How much hard drive space is needed?
    A:1TB

    7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
    A:Full HD, 22 inch (EDIT- 24 inch)

    8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
    A:5 (EDIT- 7 :-D)

    9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
    A:Assembler

    10. When are you planning to buy the system?
    A:<2 weeks

    11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
    A:Yes

    12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
    A:No

    13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
    A:Bangalore, locally please

    14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
    A:*AMD or Intel - Not choosy (as long as the RIG rocks)

    Tentative Config:

    CPU - Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz
    MB - GigaByte ATI 785G Chipset MA785GM-US2H
    HDD - Seagate SATA 1TB 32 MB Cache
    RAM - 2GB Corsair DDR3 1333MHz x 2
    Graphics - ATI Radeon HD5850 1GB
    Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 430
    SMPS - Corsair VX550W
    Monitor - BenQ E2220HD 22 inch
    KB and Mouse - MS Comfort Curved + MS Optical Mouse
    ODD - 24X Sony DVD Writer
    Sound - Altec Lansing VS4621 (I read this was a bad set.. Any advice??)


    EDIT: Budget increased to 75K - 80K.. Updated config here (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-...ions/133437-gaming-rig-60k-2.html#post1295031)
     
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  2. Cilus

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    The configuration you have chosen is actually underpowered for your requirement as well as your budget. I'm suggesting you an AMD based solution.

    My suggestion is

    AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE 3.2 GHz @ 14k
    MSI 880GMA-E45 @ 5.8k
    Kingston 2 X 2 GB 1333 MHz Ram @ 4.2k
    Seagate 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA (32 MB Cache) @ 2.9k
    BenQ G2220HD Full HD LCD @ 7.5k
    Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
    Cooler Master Elite 430 @ 2.6k
    Sapphire HD 6870 1 GB GDDR5 @ 15k
    Logitech Keyboard @ 0.4k
    Gigabyte GM6800 @ 0.8k
    LG 22X SATA DVD Writer @ 0.9k
    Altec Lansing VS-2521E @ 2.9k

    Total 61.8k. This system will will bring you best of the both world, price and performance. Let me clarify the reasons. A lot of people will differ me and will suggest a Core i7 930/950 based configuration and it is true when all the other hardware is same, core i7 950 is better performer than Phenom II X6 1090T and it is also slightly faster in a lot of other applications too. But Core i7 system will make you invest at least 11k just for getting a decent motherboard with minimum feature set and if you want a premium level board with SATA3 or USB3 support, minimum of 13k to 14k has to be spent for the Mobo. So at a budget of 60k, you can maximum get a GTX 460 1 GB as the best graphics card.

    But if you go with the AMD counterpart, you can get a very good mobo within 6k with USB 3 and SATA3 and good overclocking support. As a result you can afford a very good graphics card, HD 6870 which offers performance far better than GTX 460 and comparable to GTX 470. And in gaming, Graphics card is going to matter much, provided you have a decent CPU which can handle the graphics card in full work load.

    The system I've suggested will be enough to play all the current games in highest/higher setting in 1080P resolution. And I don't think there will be any performance difference in gaming compared to Core i7 rig as you are now having a high end card.
     
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    deepakkumarb22 New Member

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    Thank you Silus.. I'm checking the prices with my vendor now.. I'll update the prices in a few mins.. :)

    Update: Wow!! My vendor has let me down for the first time ever..
    He only had a few of the components you mentioned but said he'd get the rest of the prices in a few days.

    AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE 3.2 GHz @ Rs.13322
    MSI 880GMA-E45 @ 5.8k *Price NA*
    Kingston 2 X 2 GB 1333 MHz Ram @ Rs.3892
    Seagate 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA (32 MB Cache) @ Rs.2627
    BenQ G2220HD Full HD LCD @ 7.5k *Price NA*
    Corsair VX550W @ Rs.4873
    Cooler Master Elite 430 @ Rs.2885
    Sapphire HD 6870 1 GB GDDR5 @ 15k *Price NA*
    Logitech Keyboard K200 @ Rs.439
    Gigabyte GM6800 @ 0.8k *Price NA*
    LG 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM@ Rs.815
    Altec Lansing VS-2521E @ 2.9k *Price NA*
     
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    Amd Phenom II x4 955BE @ 7.7k
    Msi 890GXM G65 @ 7k
    Kingston 2 * 2GB DDR3 1333MHz @ 3.9k
    Sapphire HD6850 * 2 Crossfire @ 23k
    WD 500GB Blue @ 1.8k
    Corsair TX750W @ 7k
    CM Elite 430 @ 2.8k
    BENQ G2220HD @ 7.3k

    Total-60.5k

    This CF setup will be better and worth it. 6850 will be here soon.
     
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    @Cilus : The reason I like ur post is coz of the well explained reason y u didn't suggest i7 coz of the super-expensive MoBo!!n also one should invest in powerful GPU when going for gamin-n-gamin-only rig!!:thumbs:
     
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    ssb1551, thanks. The thing is when you are suggesting something which is little against the flow, I think the reason should be explained properly.

    And Jas, your suggestion is really a good one, in fact very good one for gaming. But what I thought was while spending 60K, a 6 core is a must have as apart for gaming it will give you better performance everywhere and in near future when most of the software (even games too) will be multi-core aware, a 6 core will be utilized in a better way.
    And regarding AMD Crossfire, I've few objection. AMD's multi-GPU solution is not as matured as Nvidia's SLI. in Crossfire lot of games are having scaling problems and in Crossfire you cannot create profile for a new game. So unless AMD provides the Game's profile for Crossfire with their Driver update, you cannot utilize multi-GPU on those games.
    And if you check in different tech sites, they say that a single GPU solution is always desirable. I think with your configuration, you can add a HD 5870 @ 23k and Phenom II X6 1050T @ 9.5k.

    deepakkumarb22, the price you got is really very good, specially CPU, Ram and hard-disk price. Let us know about the other component's price once you get it.
     
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    Amd Phenom II x4 955BE @ 7.8K
    Msi 890GXM G65 @ 7k
    Kingston 2 * 2GB DDR3 1333MHz @ 3.9k
    Sapphire HD 6870 @ 14.8K [ 6870 is killer card if u need u can cfx it later ]
    WD 500GB Blue @ 1.8k
    Corsair TX750W @ 7k
    CM Elite 430 @ 2.8k
    BENQ G2220HD @ 7.3k / LG E2240T (LED) @ 8.4K
     
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    @cilus
    i didnt understand "in Crossfire you cannot create profile"
    also but why then we see that 6850 CF beats GTX460 SLI in reviews..also performance is nice acc. to reviews. can you explain a bit more?

    @ damngoodman999
    please change your avatar to some descent one!
    and your suggestion is nice. he can cf hd6870 also later.
     
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    @ Jaskanwar Singh

    ya looking for better avatar , this one is impressive :)
     
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    @Jas, regarding your Crossfire profile query, for enabling multi-gpu support in a game, in SLI or Crossfire, you need to have Multi-GPU profile for the game. Now in case of SLI, user based profile creation exists, so the user can create a profile for any newly released game and enable SLI support on that game. Also downloadable profiles are also available which is periodically released by Nvidia.

    In case of CrossfireX, user cannot create Games profile by their own. Here user has to wait until AMD will release the profile for the game to use Crossfire.
     
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    oh i see! thanks for the info buddy..does amd take a long time?
     
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    the avatar in use actually suites his name. & his name should be something like this: damnBADman2010.

    every month AMD releases a new CCC, so the latest games are included. but if no profile, only 1 card is used. but what about the old games? i guess, they are enough with a single card. heres a log:

    source: filehippo

    @cilus, bro what if theres no profile. i read that 1 card is used only. so the 2nd card is turned off? or just made to sit idle & eat up power?
     
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    @Sam.Shab

    Actually u spotted its like - DamnBADman666
     
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    got that sam, thanks
     
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    Hi again,

    Thank you so much for your advice..

    I have a question through..

    Will the 890 chipset offer better performance with the X6 1090T BE though (since it's recommended and all that)??
    I found the Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H for Rs.8803.. If so, how much more performance are we talking about??

    Also, will 4 GB RAM be enough for a high performance setup like this??

    My dealer is still to get back with the prices.. :)
     
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    yah. and your avatar are always different. how much time you waste searching for those pics?

    welcome buddy.

    relative to what? cause 890GX is a fantastic IGP chipset but if you use it with a high end proccy, performance will be very much bottlenecked. if you talking about proccy + mobo + gfx, the gfx card will steal the show. so motherboard's internal performance become useless. to test real performance, go Xfire. i can just hope, the 8X+8X won't bottleneck highend cards.
     
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    As gaming is the main task, i prefer i5 760. Also, power consumption for the Intel config is lower iirc.
    i5 760 - 9.8K approx
    ASUS P7P55D-E LX - 8.3K approx (ATX, True USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbps Support, EPU for power saving, ...)
    ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
    2x 2GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz kit- 4.1K approx
    GTX460 1GB / HD6850 - 13K (assuming avg price of GTX460 1GB models)
    Corsair VX550 - 4.5K-4.7K approx (or higher model like HX750)
    1TB Seagate 7200.12 - 2.9K approx
    DVD writer - 1K approx
    22" 1080p LCD - 8K approx (as per model)
    NZXT Gamma/CM Elite 430 - 2.1K/2.8K approx
    Total- 54.6K approx
    keyboard, mouse, speakers as per choice- not much idea on that
     
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    @deepakkumarb22: where do you get a 1090T for Rs13350 for? Lowest i could find in bangalore was Rs14500 incl tax ...
     
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    Yes Sam, then only one graphics card will work and others will sit idle and eats the idle power. Now in case of AMD cards, their idle power requirement is really very low compared to their Nvidia counter parts.

    pegasus, your suggestion is really good, but when you're spending 60K, if extra performance is gained in all the other applications along with the gaming, why not Phenom II 1090T. In gaming, it is better than i5 760 and in multi-threaded applications it is also better. It has very good OC potential and very easy interface for OC.
    And there are certain things against i5 760:
    it does not have HT enabled, so only 4 cores
    it has dual channel memory controller compared to triple channel of Core i7 9XX
     
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    Check out www.bwindia.net. Binary World is an IT store in Indiranagar and I've used their website before. The prices are the lowest I've found in Bangalore and the website is always up to date.
     

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