External or Internal TV tuner?

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External or Internal TV tuner?

  1. External TV tuner

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  2. Internal TV tuner

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  1. sabret00the

    sabret00the New Member

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    Well this is a weird one,I have recently bought a Syncmaster 940BW LCD which has both VGA(DB15) and DVI(DB9) ports.Now I wud understand that a LCD uses much less electricity than a CRT.Having said that my Zebby cabinet uses a 500W PSU.Well I wud like to put forward 2 situations.Which one do u guys feel better.Using a internal video card which wud mean that the mammoth PSU runs all the time the TV is running.OR,using the DVI port to connect the monitor to the Cabinet and using a VGA cable to connect the monitor to an external TV Tuner,thereby running the LCD and only the TV Tuner and not the CPU while watching TV.
     
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    Now My Problem Is I'am Concerned With The Picture Quality Of External Tv Tuners?
     
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    I'd suggest going with the external tuner. Why run all the components of the PC just to watch TV when an external tuner can do it with the PC off? If you watch TV a lot, you could save a bundle on electricity bills.
    Picture quality of external tuners is as good as if not better than that of internal tuners.
    Plus you can always connect the external tuner to the PC via USB should you feel the need to record a programme.
    Only downside of external tuners is that they're more expensive than internal tuners, but even then they are quite affordable.
    IMO external components are preferable because if you load your cabinet with too many peripherals, it tends to heat up. An internal tuner is going to be right in the path of your graphics card's fan, so if you're an OC'er keep your cabinet as empty as possible.
     
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    If u r gonna record shows/programmes then I suggest u to go for internal tv tuner coz they r good for recording if not then u may go for external coz u can watch t.v with pc off.
     
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    External tuners are perfectly good for recording.
     
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    Hey I was wondering which external tv tuner shud be pretty good within a bracket of say Rs.1000/- (eg:Techcom)

    Chk out:Tech-Com SSD-TV-722 (External) TV Tuner Card
    http://www.techcomindia.com/itemdetail.asp?Cat=TV+TUNERS&CatID=102&prodid=617&ProdName=SSD-TV-722

    FEATURES
    ADOPTING DIGITAL ARISING FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY,IT CAN SUPPORT 8 KINDS OF OUTPUT MODE: 640X480X60Hz
    800X600X60Hz/75Hz
    24X768X60Hz/75Hz
    1280X1024X60Hz/75Hz

    PREVIEWING ALL PROGRAMS IN 4,9 OR 16 PICTURES
    PICTURE IN PICTURE FUNCTION,DISPLAYING TEH PICTURE OF TV PROGRAM ON THE STATUS OF PC.
    SUPPORTS ALL TFT MONITORS
    NO SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE REQUIRED
    STORED UPTO 150 CHANNELS
    CONNECT TO CAMERA/VCD/DVD/TV GAME PLAYER
    BEST IMAGE QUALITY WITH 24 BIT COLOUR
    JUST SIMPLY PLUG AND PLAY
    SPECIFICATIONS

    FULL SUBJOINING CHANNEL RECEIVING,COMPATIBLE WITH CABLE TV AND WIRELESS TV SIGNAL

    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

    RECEIVABLE CHANNEL: DS1-57CH, Z1-38CH (470MHz FOR FULL
    SUBJOINING TV CHANNEL)
    PRE-ADJUSTING PROGRAM MEMORY : 256
    FRAME FREQUENCY: 60Hz/75Hz
    LINE FREQUENCY: 31KHz-80KHz
    ANTENNA: 75 OHM UNBALANCE MODE


    Seems pretty good?
     
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    Seems good, but there's no way to know what the picture quality wil be like. This seems to be one of those tuners than dosen't connect to the PC and let you record stuff. If that's important to you look elsewhere.
     
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    very imp point there but I dont need to record tv and anyways one of my friend uses a techcom tv tuner,actually he suggested me the brand!!
     
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    whatever it is- internal or external,dont buy any low end stuff from tech-com,frontech,pinnacle,etc
    when u invest,invest wisely on a haupage or compro series!
    so,that's it-folks!!!
     
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    If your friend has used it and can assure you that the image quality is good, I don't see how you can go wrong spending just 1000 bucks on this.
     
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    Bought the Tech-Com SSD-TV-722 (External) TV Tuner Card today.............it cost me Rs.1850/- (+4% VAT)
     
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    How is the picture quality on 940BW, does normal 4:3 TV gets
    stretched
    to 16:10 ratio or does it give u option to choose?
     
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    satyamy Alive Again...

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    My personal exp. "internal" & know it work better
     
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    How is the quality?
    Further, is there any problem in connecting the PC to the DVI and at the same time Tuner to the VGA?
     
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    u shud have got a tuner based on the ATi Theater 550/650 Chipset. Its one of the best chipsets and will cost a lot more. abt 5k. but the quality is superb.
     
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    Well as far as the this tuner is concerned it gives u options to choose from 8 screen resolution modes starting from 640x480 @ 60Hz to 1280x1024 @ 75Hz
    I selected 1024x768 @ 60Hz and then did the "auto-adjust" feature on the LCD (common to all LCDs) and it adjusted the picture geometry.Working pretty good for me.Surprisingly the picture dosent look stretched at all.Infact I feel the 940BW offers better TV viewing due to the wide screen than my square 19" Syncmaster 955DF CRT does.

    No issues so far.
    I'am kinda satisified so far as far as the features are concerned only thing missing is TV pause and Live Recording.

    Bro just needed a card to connect to my open VGA port and watch decent quality TV,thats it.
     
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    Howcan that be 1024x768 will get streached u may not feel it but onlu notice when u see anything round & it appears oval.
    I a tsting another older model of techcom & it has the same oval problem, its minor thing but it does streach.

    The dealer told me it has recording but even I cant find recording facility in this model or the one i am using.

    Are u able to switch to computer & TV mode, I am having problem doing that, how does this switching mode works
     
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    I second your opinion. If internal ATI or Compro are the ones best.
     
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    is it true that all internal card require that the Pc must remain on, or are there any model which lets you record & play without using the comp?
     
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    Screen resolutions and 4:3 or 16:9 & 16:10 are two different things though they are inter-related. Native resolution of wide TFT is 1440X900. Does your tuner allow you to set that resolution??
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    In case of internal, PC has to run and now a days 965 boards has only 2 pci slots, so you can put a TV tuner card & another sound card, moreover it will block your graphic fans flow. You should take these things into consideration for internals. Moreover in case of internals you always have risk of surge/ shocks through cable endangering ur whole PC. I don't know whether this is also aplicable to CAS & DTH reception.
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    I presume, both internal as well external have their merits & demerits. No one can be said to be superior to other. The actual utility will depend, which one will suite you. Now the externals /USB also have good recording feature too. Picture quality etc is also very same with internal & externals. I am not talking of Techcom, Intex etc. I am talking about high end tuners such as ATI theater, Compro Videomate Gold, hauphage etc.

    Quality will depend upon Audio & Video encoders inbuilt into the chip. Mostly from philips. Only highend tuners will have these.
     
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